Start with a rotor and pad change aftermarket not OEM. If that doesn't satisfy then contact ToddTCE he's a vendor here that can point you into the right direction and has caliper and rotor swaps packages that use the R/T spindle. The brakes weren't that bad on my Magnum and I just had some regular rotors and pads and could do full stops no problems.
Install for the police package is really straight forward that is basically a rotor and pad swap with a different bracket in the rear.

 

Flush out the old brake fluid and put in new fluid, also change the brake hoses to braided hoses.

New pads and rotors.

That should help.

Bob

 

thanks guys i cant find the police package write up......search not working for me thank you again

 

If you have a V6, get the RT calipers. If you have a RT, check out Wilwood big brake kits. They mount up to your RT spindles.

 

A wide variety of options. Not cheap...but you get what you pay for they say.

BRAKES

 

OP: Do you have a V6 or a V8?

 

My R/T brakes never really sucked. They worked well. You may have an issue there.

I changed to Willwoods, anticipating racing. they are obviously much better, but probably not needed for a daily driver.

IMO, better than a SRT conversion.

 

I just converted to a larger rotor in the rear of my 07 R/T. Installed all Raybestos. The front rotor of the R/T is 345mm. The rears were originally 320mm vented rotor. I ordered the MOPAR caliper bracket 5175065AB (2, one for each side). Then installed 350mm rotors (the size of the police rotor) in the rear. The police pads from Raybestos is a semi-metalic (probably not the best option for DD street). they are pretty cool looking, because it has a police badge symbol on the backing plate. I opted for ceramic pads over the police pads. Both the front and rear rotors (from Raybestos) were by far the heaviest passenger car rotors I've encountered. The stock Bosch rotors were tore up, like the pad just ate the rotor away (don't know why, I bought car with 24000 miles and it look like that then). Now has 45000 miles. IMHO I'm not very hard on brakes. After I unpacked the rotors, I washed the cosmoline (sp) off in the solvent tank. then I washed the solvent off the rotors in hot soapy water so that you could see the pores of the rotor. The MOPAR brackets did not come with grease cups, so I gently removed the grease cups from the old bracket and installed them on the new brackets. The pad sets come with new abutment clips. I lube them with silicone brake grease (also included) and installed the new pads. Between last night and to and from work today, I was extremely easy on the new brakes and followed manufacturer brake burnish procedure. Near the end of the day, it felt like the pads really started to seat in and braking is exceptional. I'm not joe racecar driver and am just looking for a reliable brake system that will last longer that the Bosch setup. I don't know this for a fact, but IMHO the 320mm is satisfactory for the 18 inch wheels, but I prefer the larger rotor for the 20s (I don't have any engineering proof that this is so). So depending on your needs, you'll have to choose the products for your needs.

 

TCE!!!!
For the win!!!!

 

I have an RT

 

If you have vented rotors in the rear, just install the police caliper brackets and larger rotors in the rear and you should be fine. If you don't have 345mm rotors in front, then change the fronts also. You'll have to do a little research for that. Just remember when you're looking for rotors, it will be 345mm in front and 350mm in the rear. If you're providing labor and have access to shop pricing, I spent 650 in parts. So this will give you a comparison for the route you want to take.

 

Contact Todd at TCE and he can set you up with Wilwood...

Best choice out there for our cars...

I have had my set up for 6 years... From Todd.. Best choice ever!!!

 

I don't think the brakes are all that bad but there again I'm not driving in conditions that would cause fade. Is that the issue or is it something else.

 

i just feel a big dipfoward when braking and that it reqjires effort, my ctsv brenbobrakes in my 2001 camaro are instant, it feels all lazy.... idk if that makes sense im going t upgrade all the pads and do the upgrade in the rear, does it utilize the same caliper in the popo package? besides width is it any taller in the back? there is opportunity for a goot cheap kit here i bought my brembo package for my camaro 650 out of oocket wit 14" inch zo6 rotors and steel lines when i have time im going to try to mske a braket to accept a 4piston or 6 piston corvette caliper(brembo) render it in cad and see cost of making some i think a kit at 750is doablewith new rotors or 600without.....

 

does it utilize the same caliper in the popo package?

Yes, same caliper - just the bracket, 13.7" rotor and matching pads (to accommodate thicker rotor) is all you need. I

 

I'm not driving my brakes to the edge of fade either. Just like davidadavila, I wanted to upgrade my brakes. I think the car stops flatter. I don't know how much the auto-leveling affects this. I like the police brake package on my magnum and I didn't break the bank to upgrade. I probably could have put this package together a little cheaper, but I am very happy.

 

Raybestos does not mfg brake rotors. The last rotor plant in the USA closed a decade ago. They buy them from huge distributors like Brembo. They all come from China. And whether the box says "Duralast", "Raybestos", etc, the rotors inside are the same.

 

Just like no matter who you buy them from on Ebay with different slots, holes, dimples, hatches, or whatever....still just a low cost casting from China. And a shiny box.

 

Love my "plus 2" Wilwood bbk upgrade from TCE.

 

I thought my brakes were good on the front even though I knew they were worn well. Had new rotors and quality no dust non oem pads put on it, it made a HUGE diff in the pedal, much higher, little travel when you hit the brakes.

 

i just feel a big dipfoward when braking and that it requires effort, my ctsv brenbobrakes in my 2001 camaro are instant, it feels all lazy.... idk if that makes sense im going t upgrade all the pads and do the upgrade in the rear, does it utilize the same caliper in the popo package? besides width is it any taller in the back? there is opportunity for a goot cheap kit here i bought my brembo package for my camaro 650 out of oocket wit 14" inch zo6 rotors and steel lines when i have time im going to try to mske a braket to accept a 4piston or 6 piston corvette caliper(brembo) render it in cad and see cost of making some i think a kit at 750is doablewith new rotors or 600without.....

It sounds like, if you are comparing an oem Brembo setup to stock RT brakes, that you are really comparing apples and oranges. On a school bus no less. For ordinary daily driving an RTs brakes are just fine. But if you are used to performance brakes you aren't going to be happy methinks. Its interesting to hear about the police package just for the rear. Something I noticed playing around with brake/caliper/pad configs on my RT was that it seemed you could put a LOT more bias in the rear than conventional wisdom says you can. So maybe there is something to be gained there.

BUT I would worry a little bit about how much you are spending vs. the gain and the chance that you still won't be happy. The front system is still going to be there. A Wilwood option is about as tried and true as they come with a range of pads stepping up from mildly aggressive street all the way up to bat$hit track-only stuff.

Maybe the thing to do first is to go thru your system and make sure its not something dumb like hydrated fluid and crap pads. But if you are comparing to an oem Brembo setup then you want to look into a Wilwood kit at least in the front - get the caliper kit that uses SRT rotors, which will take you up to and past what the Brembos can do for quite a bit less money (given the spindle $$$ issue).

When you say you feel a big dip forward... are you talking about brakes or center-of-gravity shift? If the latter thats suspension not braking.

 

Update. I just wore a set of pads out on the driver's side rear. Forgot to use brake grease on one caliper pin and ran the pads down to warning gauge. I tried to install Bosch Premium Quiet Case Ceramic pads (similar to OEM). Long story short, the pad lining was too thick and would not allow the installation of the caliper. So if you still want ceramic pads, use raybestos D1057A in ceramic, otherwise use the Napa UP-8292-M (or SM) or the Raybestos law enforcement brake pad (you'll know it's for police, because there is a police insignia on the backing plate of the brake pad)